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Top 10 Things CS Education Researchers Wish They Could Tell Policymakers and Practitioners - Shared screen with speaker view
Tina Ornduff
03:16
Tina Ornduff from Google
Hal Speed
03:21
Howdy, Hal Speed from CS4TX
Hannah Weissman
03:23
Hey everyone Hannah from code.org great to see you all
Debra Richardson
03:23
Debra Richardson, California, UC Irvine, ECEP
Monica McGill
03:29
Monica McGill from CSEdResearch.org
Sarah Carter
03:30
Sarah, Minnesota Department of Education. I want to learn all the things! :)
Kailey DeLuca
03:31
Kailey, Ed Farm - Birmingham, AL
Morgan Warbington
03:33
Morgan Warbington, Arkansas ADE Computer Science
Annie Wallace
03:34
Annie Wallace, NH DOE
Cindi Chang
03:34
Cindi Chang, Nevada Department of Education
Alba Gutierrez
03:34
Hello everyone, my name is Alba Gutierrez. I work for CEISMC Georgia Tech.
Malinda Riemersma
03:35
Malinda from Nevada - Digital Learning Coach
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
03:36
Hello everyone! My name is Jean Ryoo - UCLA Computer Science Equity Project
Ken Akiha
03:37
Hi Everyone! Ken from Code.org
Samantha Dahlby
03:37
Samantha Dahlby, NewBoCo, Iowa
Elissa Hozore
03:39
Elissa Hozore from Maryland State Dept of Ed
Dan Blier
03:39
Dan Blier, Plano ISD, CSTA, CS4TX, Texas
Sarah Dunton
03:42
Hello everyone, Sarah Dunton with the ECEP Alliance
Steve Snow
03:44
Steve Snow from North Dakota Dept of Public Instruction
Leigh Ann DeLyser
03:47
Anisa Bora from CSforALL
Paul Bruno
03:48
I'm Paul Bruno, Assistant Professor of Education Policy Organization, and Leadership, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
Laurel Ballard
03:48
Laurel Ballard, Wyoming Department of Education, Wyoming
Tonya Davis
03:51
Tonya Davis Microsoft TEALS TX
Katie Hendrickson
03:54
Hi everyone! Katie Hendrickson from Code.org
Marisa Graybill
03:55
Marisa Graybill, Montana Office of Public Instruction, 10 items to include in our plan!
Heidi Williams
03:55
Heidi - from Wisconsin. Marquette University & ISTE - CS/CT curriculum specialist.
Gay Stewart
03:56
Gay Stewart, CodeWV, West Virginia, how to we best get every child access to CS!
Tori Engel
03:59
Tori Engel from Washington University STL
Dan Blier
04:02
Hi Hal, I keep seeing you everywhere lately. :-)
Corey Mize
04:05
Corey Mize, Base Camp Coding Academy. Mississippi. Very interested in learning more about what researchers have uncovered that would be helpful to students and practitioners
Clark Merkley
04:08
Clark Merkley, Executive Director of BootUp PD. We are working nationally. Interested in how to improve communication between researchers, policymakers and practitioners to get the most optimal results
Katie Hendrickson
04:08
Hi everyone! Katie Hendrickson from Code.org
Shannon Thissen
04:20
Shannon Thissen - Office of the Superintendent of Public Instruction - WA State
Mayra Bachrach
04:24
Hello, Everyone from Mayra Bachrach, Kean U, CS4NJ, CSTANJ, New Jersey
Carol Fletcher
04:35
Carol Fletcher from UT Austin and ECEP Alliance
Amy Roberts
04:38
Hello, all! Amy Roberts from Code.org
Erdogan Kaya
04:44
Hi All! Erdogan Kaya from George Mason University
Monique RICE
04:45
Monique Rice, AdvanceKentucky. Interested in everything…
Deirdre HODSON
04:47
Deirdre Hodson - joining from Brussels. Policy maker at the European Commission and student with Uni of Edinburgh
Hannah Weissman
04:56
Here is the link to that website: https://advocacy.code.org/state-policy-forum
Jason Bohrer
05:07
Jason Bohrer, Chapter Relations Manager | Computer Science Teachers Association (CSTA), interested in learning more about how we can work with researchers to provide support for CS educators
Hannah Weissman
05:11
And here is the state of CS report: https://advocacy.code.org/stateofcs
Erin Donohoe
05:19
Erin Donohoe, Pennsylvania Dept. of Education. I work in the policy office and we're always eager to learn about model policies and how to make access to CS more equitable.
Dan Stormont
05:38
Hi all! Dan Stormont, Arizona Regional Manager with the Microsoft Philanthropies TEALS Program.
Heidi Williams
05:50
Hi Carol - Have seen you name everywhere. Would love to connect as my daughter just applied to attend Austin for the 2021-22 school year.
Gay Stewart
05:51
Gay Stewart, CodeWV, West Virginia, how to we best get every child access to CS!
Alex Dexheimer
06:31
Alex Dexheimer, Twin Cities PBS, Minnesota. Interested in equity in CS research and how that can inform policy.
Susan Auchincloss
07:18
Susan Auchincloss from ReadyCT
Fran Bromley-Norwood
07:36
Fran Bromley-Norwood, CSTA Nevada Silver State
Dan Stormont
08:15
Nice choice!
Monique RICE
08:44
I heard that - Angela Bassett can play anybody
Monique RICE
08:56
I can see that
Heidi Williams
09:21
definitely see the resemblance
Pat Yongpradit
09:25
LOL
Monique RICE
09:53
Needs more volume
Paula Moore
10:04
Just saw Jeremy Renner in Town (go Boston!) last night! He's scary!!
Dan Stormont
10:19
Sounds like your settings are for the computer mic, not the headset, Andrea.
Tina Ornduff
10:20
great answers
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
11:20
Should slides be up right now?
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
11:37
Thanks Pat :)
Katie Hendrickson
12:03
The latest report is here: https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/computer-science-education-in-us-k12schools-2020-report.pdf
Chris Stephenson
12:14
Thanks, Katie!
Debra Richardson
12:23
@Chris … maybe Kathy Bates in DISJOINTED?
Hannah Weissman
12:27
You can also get the previous reports here (2016 and 2015): https://csedu.gallup.com/home.aspx
Chris Stephenson
14:34
@Debra Very Primary colors!
Dan Stormont
15:45
I think that's really a cultural issue about students not thinking CS is relevant to them. It goes back to unflattering stereotypes of computer scientists, but I'm not sure how to change that!
Chris Stephenson
16:38
I agree with you, Dan. The geek stereotype is still really pervasive.
Hannah Weissman
17:40
A great new documentary just came out ethnics and bias in Computer Science: https://metrograph.com/coded-bias/
Katie Hendrickson
17:58
some details on REAL-CS: https://centerx.gseis.ucla.edu/computer-science-equity-project/real-cs/
Dan Blier
18:16
@Dan and @Chris - new TV shows and movies are starting to show women and teams engaging together in a more positive light. Of course, how long will it take for people to lose the old visuals of CS.
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
20:05
@Dan: For Halloween I was rewatching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and there was actually a scene where they were in computer class and coding, and the “smart” girl was able to trick the “mean but popular” girl in deleting her program…and in another episode, it is only white male students who are the ones “smart” enough to be good in computer class. Both of them are killed by a demon though…
Dan Stormont
20:06
I suspect it will take a while @Dan. Of course, I think it is also helpful to "sneak" CS into curriculum by integrating it into other curricula. I think students can enjoy CS when they don't realize that's what they are doing.
Andrea Cohan
20:15
@Dan - also showing students how their career goals will utilize coding in some fashion will hopefully work...
Dan Blier
21:06
@Jean - We don't want to promote our awesome girl coders as killable demons.
Dan Stormont
21:28
That's the approach we usually take with our TEALS Program classes, but - let's face it - a lot of HS students aren't really thinking careers yet.
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
21:33
@Dan: So funny, the awesome girl coder is one of the beloved main characters, so no worries there!
Dan Blier
22:30
@Dan I think in some ways we need to be explicit that what students are learning is computer science. If we don't make those connections early on, how will students know to select that as an option as a future career?
Malinda Riemersma
22:51
@Dan - not just are they not thinking about careers, many of the careers we want to prepare them for haven't been designed yet. How do we show them what they can grow up to be when we can't "show" them?
Carol Fletcher
22:57
So true about mathematics being a gatekeeper Tamara. We know that Black, Brown and students from low-income families are systematically tracked out of advanced math pathways that would lead to Algebra 1 before HS. This often closes the door for them to take CS in HS as a freshman
Dan Stormont
23:19
Good point, @Malinda.
David Lockett
23:27
Reshaping curriculum to reflect student’s diversity leads to better educational outcomes. Excellent points
Tamara Pearson
23:34
Yes, Carol. Absolutely!
Katie Hendrickson
23:54
Some details about this framework: https://www.tacc.utexas.edu/epic/research
Joe Kmoch
24:24
I agree with Tamara’s approach to developing programs that meet the needs of the underserved. These really need to make sure that pedagogy and equity are front and center and not just content - to often things start this way but all too quickly slip into the content only camp - all the excuses I’ve heard about moving quickly to the content is getting old and frustrating efforts to getting undeserved students involved.
Carol Fletcher
24:43
Great point Joe
Dan Blier
24:59
Agreed @Joe
Tamara Pearson
25:01
Thanks Joe! We need to be explicit about who we are trying to serve.
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
25:18
I think we need to also think beyond just having a job in computer science - but understanding how computer science touches ALL career pathways. Students need to see how computing affects everything that people do and how we live day to day. Also, I agree that many are not thinking concretely about careers in high school sometimes, but they still have interests and are really wanting to have positive impact on the world around them - so by showing connections between CS content and how to create tools that impact change proves really impactful for engagement and shaping student identity and agency with computing.
Samantha Dahlby
26:03
Yes Joe. Content knowledge can grow and evolve, but culture is much harder to change. We need classrooms, schools, CS pathways to have a supportive, inclusive culture if we’re going to change the outcomes.
Dan Stormont
26:20
Agree completely, @Jean. Especially when addressing challenges like climate change, it can be easier to get young people involved.
Heidi Williams
27:06
agreed @Joe - curriculum needs to be customized to the local context being served
Heidi Williams
29:49
the culture of rural communities is much different than the culture of cities : understanding of each culture is essential to the research
Debra Richardson
30:47
@Jean, is this after her AP CSP class?
Sarah Carter
30:51
Working great!
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
30:57
@Debra: Yes, after a full year of CS
Dan Stormont
31:57
Yes! Focus on creativity and problem solving!
Heidi Williams
32:03
‘questions I didn’t even know I had’ - such an enlightening statement
Pat Yongpradit
32:10
Very grounding to hear from a student
Kathy Benson
33:06
Can we get a link to the video so we can share it with others?
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
35:05
@Kathy: I will be posting the video on our website soon (which includes other student speakers from a panel we presented at the CSTA Conference 2020). So please check back on our website here in a couple of weeks: https://centerx.gseis.ucla.edu/computer-science-equity-project/real-cs/videos/
Dan Blier
35:21
Summer programs can be a great way to engage students for the first time and get them to want to enroll in CS courses.
Kathy Benson
36:04
Thanks! @JeanRyoo
Monica McGill
37:29
Such a great point. I had not thought of that.
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
37:29
@Tamara: we’re finding that in Mississippi where students/teachers/admin are under a LOT of standardized testing pressure during the school day
Laura Dillon
37:34
Great points!
Heidi Williams
37:55
great point - this should be how we learn all the time
Deirdre HODSON
38:07
We are introducing CS in Ireland for the first time (senior high school, 15-18 year olds, elective subject) - the feedback from students is really positive - similar comments about it being creative, different to other subjects, empowering, real-world applications. Videos from six schools https://ncca.ie/en/senior-cycle/curriculum-developments/computer-science
Carol Fletcher
39:23
Great point Tamara - learning is severely restricted in schools that are under the gun so to speak due to accountability systems. Administrators end up in triage mode regarding decisions about what gets attention intros schools and anything that isn’t tested is de-prioritized.
Dan Stormont
40:31
Very nice, @Deirdre!
Tamara Pearson
40:46
Yes, our system has gone down a very slippery slope of “accountability”
Chris Stephenson
40:47
Deidre, I know the new. CS curriculum in Ireland and it is great. I am really sorry that the pandemic has slowed things down a bit.
Laura Dillon
41:42
Will we have access to the video that was shown?
Malinda Riemersma
42:33
Are the teachers in those same areas prepared to teach CS?
Joe Kmoch
43:01
@Jean Ryoo I totally agree - in presentations I’ve been doing frankly for years I’ve noted that the jobs in CS only represent maybe 6-7% of all jobs/careers; that in fact we need to understand how much CS pervades most other domains/career pathways, but often “marketing” keeps pointing to the 1.4 millions jobs that are and will be available - of course those are only a small percent of jobs/career that do and will engage CS.
Carol Fletcher
43:46
@malinda In general, rural schools are less likely to employ certified CS teachers in TX than urban or suburban schools.
Malinda Riemersma
44:11
@Carol - same in Nevada. :(
Katie Hendrickson
44:17
details about the CSTA equity fellows: https://www.csteachers.org/page/csta-equity-fellowship
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
44:42
It makes me think of the important work of Delpit around identifying what it means to be a “warm demander” and the importance of this for Black students
Tamara Pearson
44:59
@Jean: Love Delpit!
Hannah Weissman
45:15
For anyone who is interested in learning about Kapor center here is the website: https://www.kaporcenter.org
Tamara Pearson
45:24
Monique Morris: https://www.amazon.com/Pushout-Criminalization-Black-Girls-Schools/dp/1620973421/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=black+girls+school&qid=1605213914&sr=8-1
Heidi Williams
48:19
I wonder if schools districts that engage students at K-5 have increased enrollment in CS classes in 6-12.
Karen North
48:52
To connect with Action Makers Joe Kmoch, Heidi Williams and I would like to invite you to the Champions of CS & CT Playground @ISTE20 Sunday 11/29 7:30 - 9:00 AM PST. Hadi Partovi will be presenting at 8:10 PST. Karen Peterson NGCP, Edie Cheng NCWIT, Ruthe Farmer CSforAll along with others will be sharing in 6 breakout sessions.https://conference.iste.org/2020/program/search/detail_session.php?id=113610073
Chris Stephenson
48:57
Agree, Cheryl!
Dianne O'Grady-Cunniff
49:20
ISTE?
Karen North
50:31
https://www.iste.org/ - International Society of Tech Education.
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
51:50
@Cheryl: Really important point you bring up!
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
52:07
@Dianne and Karen, Thanks for sharing that info!
Andrea Cohan
52:58
love that, Tamara
Clark Merkley
55:21
Thanks everyone! Great discussion and resources shared in the chat. In our work, we see great opportunities to get students started as early as possible - even PreK
Malinda Riemersma
55:38
Teachers appreciate all of that! Thank you all!
Heidi Williams
55:55
This has been so helpful!
Dan Stormont
56:07
https://bit.ly/3khttDF
Andrea Cohan
56:07
thank you, Chris!!!
Dan Blier
56:12
Thank you All!
Debra Richardson
56:19
Thanks to all!
Tamara Pearson
56:26
Thank you Chris for pulling us all together!
Cindi Chang
56:41
Thank you everyone!
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
56:43
Thanks, everyone, for all the great work you do! And thanks Pat and Chris for organizing this opportunity to share! Thanks fellow panelists! An honor to be here with you :)
Elissa Hozore
56:51
Thank you!
Deirdre HODSON
56:57
Yes we need to build more bridges between policy makers and researchers - and fully agree that CS sits in a wider culture of the education system
Keisha Tennessee
56:58
Thank you!
Hannah Weissman
57:04
Here is the link to all the recorded webinars: https://advocacy.code.org/state-policy-forum
Karen North
57:08
Thank you - bought insight to my research and advocacy to scale CS Education.
Monique RICE
57:10
Thank you everyone!! Great talk
Corey Mize
57:16
Thank you!
Laura Dillon
57:18
Thank you!!!
Hannah Weissman
57:18
We will be posting this webinar recording soon!
Joe Kmoch
57:20
Thank you so much to the panelists and to Chris for putting this together - I will be sharing this with several others that are also dealing with these issues. I hope your slides will be available along with the recording.
Alba Gutierrez
57:23
Thank you!
Dan Stormont
57:41
Thank you all! I will definitely be sharing this with my colleagues!
Rosi Kloberdanz
57:43
Thank you -- excellent!
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
57:54
I will make sure to share the video link with Pat to share as follow-up soon!
Jean Ryoo (She/Her) - UCLA
58:03
For the student video :)
Laura Dillon
58:13
can you type the url into the chat
Sarah Dunton
58:15
Thank you for the great panel, and calls to action. Adding the value of out of school time in the equity conversation was a nice addition.
Gay Stewart
58:20
thank you!
Karen North
58:26
Thank you Chris and great to see you!!