Top 10 Things CS Education Researchers Wish They Could Tell Policymakers and Practitioners
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03:16
Tina Ornduff from Google

03:21
Howdy, Hal Speed from CS4TX

03:23
Hey everyone Hannah from code.org great to see you all

03:23
Debra Richardson, California, UC Irvine, ECEP

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Monica McGill from CSEdResearch.org

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Sarah, Minnesota Department of Education. I want to learn all the things! :)

03:31
Kailey, Ed Farm - Birmingham, AL

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Morgan Warbington, Arkansas ADE Computer Science

03:34
Annie Wallace, NH DOE

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Cindi Chang, Nevada Department of Education

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Hello everyone, my name is Alba Gutierrez. I work for CEISMC Georgia Tech.

03:35
Malinda from Nevada - Digital Learning Coach

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Hello everyone! My name is Jean Ryoo - UCLA Computer Science Equity Project

03:37
Hi Everyone! Ken from Code.org

03:37
Samantha Dahlby, NewBoCo, Iowa

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Elissa Hozore from Maryland State Dept of Ed

03:39
Dan Blier, Plano ISD, CSTA, CS4TX, Texas

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Hello everyone, Sarah Dunton with the ECEP Alliance

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Steve Snow from North Dakota Dept of Public Instruction

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Anisa Bora from CSforALL

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I'm Paul Bruno, Assistant Professor of Education Policy Organization, and Leadership, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

03:48
Laurel Ballard, Wyoming Department of Education, Wyoming

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Tonya Davis Microsoft TEALS TX

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Hi everyone! Katie Hendrickson from Code.org

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Marisa Graybill, Montana Office of Public Instruction, 10 items to include in our plan!

03:55
Heidi - from Wisconsin. Marquette University & ISTE - CS/CT curriculum specialist.

03:56
Gay Stewart, CodeWV, West Virginia, how to we best get every child access to CS!

03:59
Tori Engel from Washington University STL

04:02
Hi Hal, I keep seeing you everywhere lately. :-)

04:05
Corey Mize, Base Camp Coding Academy. Mississippi. Very interested in learning more about what researchers have uncovered that would be helpful to students and practitioners

04:08
Clark Merkley, Executive Director of BootUp PD. We are working nationally. Interested in how to improve communication between researchers, policymakers and practitioners to get the most optimal results

04:08
Hi everyone! Katie Hendrickson from Code.org

04:20
Shannon Thissen - Office of the Superintendent of Public Instruction - WA State

04:24
Hello, Everyone from Mayra Bachrach, Kean U, CS4NJ, CSTANJ, New Jersey

04:35
Carol Fletcher from UT Austin and ECEP Alliance

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Hello, all! Amy Roberts from Code.org

04:44
Hi All! Erdogan Kaya from George Mason University

04:45
Monique Rice, AdvanceKentucky. Interested in everything…

04:47
Deirdre Hodson - joining from Brussels. Policy maker at the European Commission and student with Uni of Edinburgh

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Here is the link to that website: https://advocacy.code.org/state-policy-forum

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Jason Bohrer, Chapter Relations Manager | Computer Science Teachers Association (CSTA), interested in learning more about how we can work with researchers to provide support for CS educators

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And here is the state of CS report: https://advocacy.code.org/stateofcs

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Erin Donohoe, Pennsylvania Dept. of Education. I work in the policy office and we're always eager to learn about model policies and how to make access to CS more equitable.

05:38
Hi all! Dan Stormont, Arizona Regional Manager with the Microsoft Philanthropies TEALS Program.

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Hi Carol - Have seen you name everywhere. Would love to connect as my daughter just applied to attend Austin for the 2021-22 school year.

05:51
Gay Stewart, CodeWV, West Virginia, how to we best get every child access to CS!

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Alex Dexheimer, Twin Cities PBS, Minnesota. Interested in equity in CS research and how that can inform policy.

07:18
Susan Auchincloss from ReadyCT

07:36
Fran Bromley-Norwood, CSTA Nevada Silver State

08:15
Nice choice!

08:44
I heard that - Angela Bassett can play anybody

08:56
I can see that

09:21
definitely see the resemblance

09:25
LOL

09:53
Needs more volume

10:04
Just saw Jeremy Renner in Town (go Boston!) last night! He's scary!!

10:19
Sounds like your settings are for the computer mic, not the headset, Andrea.

10:20
great answers

11:20
Should slides be up right now?

11:37
Thanks Pat :)

12:03
The latest report is here: https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/computer-science-education-in-us-k12schools-2020-report.pdf

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Thanks, Katie!

12:23
@Chris … maybe Kathy Bates in DISJOINTED?

12:27
You can also get the previous reports here (2016 and 2015): https://csedu.gallup.com/home.aspx

14:34
@Debra Very Primary colors!

15:45
I think that's really a cultural issue about students not thinking CS is relevant to them. It goes back to unflattering stereotypes of computer scientists, but I'm not sure how to change that!

16:38
I agree with you, Dan. The geek stereotype is still really pervasive.

17:40
A great new documentary just came out ethnics and bias in Computer Science: https://metrograph.com/coded-bias/

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some details on REAL-CS: https://centerx.gseis.ucla.edu/computer-science-equity-project/real-cs/

18:16
@Dan and @Chris - new TV shows and movies are starting to show women and teams engaging together in a more positive light. Of course, how long will it take for people to lose the old visuals of CS.

20:05
@Dan: For Halloween I was rewatching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and there was actually a scene where they were in computer class and coding, and the “smart” girl was able to trick the “mean but popular” girl in deleting her program…and in another episode, it is only white male students who are the ones “smart” enough to be good in computer class. Both of them are killed by a demon though…

20:06
I suspect it will take a while @Dan. Of course, I think it is also helpful to "sneak" CS into curriculum by integrating it into other curricula. I think students can enjoy CS when they don't realize that's what they are doing.

20:15
@Dan - also showing students how their career goals will utilize coding in some fashion will hopefully work...

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@Jean - We don't want to promote our awesome girl coders as killable demons.

21:28
That's the approach we usually take with our TEALS Program classes, but - let's face it - a lot of HS students aren't really thinking careers yet.

21:33
@Dan: So funny, the awesome girl coder is one of the beloved main characters, so no worries there!

22:30
@Dan I think in some ways we need to be explicit that what students are learning is computer science. If we don't make those connections early on, how will students know to select that as an option as a future career?

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@Dan - not just are they not thinking about careers, many of the careers we want to prepare them for haven't been designed yet. How do we show them what they can grow up to be when we can't "show" them?

22:57
So true about mathematics being a gatekeeper Tamara. We know that Black, Brown and students from low-income families are systematically tracked out of advanced math pathways that would lead to Algebra 1 before HS. This often closes the door for them to take CS in HS as a freshman

23:19
Good point, @Malinda.

23:27
Reshaping curriculum to reflect student’s diversity leads to better educational outcomes. Excellent points

23:34
Yes, Carol. Absolutely!

23:54
Some details about this framework: https://www.tacc.utexas.edu/epic/research

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I agree with Tamara’s approach to developing programs that meet the needs of the underserved. These really need to make sure that pedagogy and equity are front and center and not just content - to often things start this way but all too quickly slip into the content only camp - all the excuses I’ve heard about moving quickly to the content is getting old and frustrating efforts to getting undeserved students involved.

24:43
Great point Joe

24:59
Agreed @Joe

25:01
Thanks Joe! We need to be explicit about who we are trying to serve.

25:18
I think we need to also think beyond just having a job in computer science - but understanding how computer science touches ALL career pathways. Students need to see how computing affects everything that people do and how we live day to day. Also, I agree that many are not thinking concretely about careers in high school sometimes, but they still have interests and are really wanting to have positive impact on the world around them - so by showing connections between CS content and how to create tools that impact change proves really impactful for engagement and shaping student identity and agency with computing.

26:03
Yes Joe. Content knowledge can grow and evolve, but culture is much harder to change. We need classrooms, schools, CS pathways to have a supportive, inclusive culture if we’re going to change the outcomes.

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Agree completely, @Jean. Especially when addressing challenges like climate change, it can be easier to get young people involved.

27:06
agreed @Joe - curriculum needs to be customized to the local context being served

29:49
the culture of rural communities is much different than the culture of cities : understanding of each culture is essential to the research

30:47
@Jean, is this after her AP CSP class?

30:51
Working great!

30:57
@Debra: Yes, after a full year of CS

31:57
Yes! Focus on creativity and problem solving!

32:03
‘questions I didn’t even know I had’ - such an enlightening statement

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Very grounding to hear from a student

33:06
Can we get a link to the video so we can share it with others?

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@Kathy: I will be posting the video on our website soon (which includes other student speakers from a panel we presented at the CSTA Conference 2020). So please check back on our website here in a couple of weeks: https://centerx.gseis.ucla.edu/computer-science-equity-project/real-cs/videos/

35:21
Summer programs can be a great way to engage students for the first time and get them to want to enroll in CS courses.

36:04
Thanks! @JeanRyoo

37:29
Such a great point. I had not thought of that.

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@Tamara: we’re finding that in Mississippi where students/teachers/admin are under a LOT of standardized testing pressure during the school day

37:34
Great points!

37:55
great point - this should be how we learn all the time

38:07
We are introducing CS in Ireland for the first time (senior high school, 15-18 year olds, elective subject) - the feedback from students is really positive - similar comments about it being creative, different to other subjects, empowering, real-world applications. Videos from six schools https://ncca.ie/en/senior-cycle/curriculum-developments/computer-science

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Great point Tamara - learning is severely restricted in schools that are under the gun so to speak due to accountability systems. Administrators end up in triage mode regarding decisions about what gets attention intros schools and anything that isn’t tested is de-prioritized.

40:31
Very nice, @Deirdre!

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Yes, our system has gone down a very slippery slope of “accountability”

40:47
Deidre, I know the new. CS curriculum in Ireland and it is great. I am really sorry that the pandemic has slowed things down a bit.

41:42
Will we have access to the video that was shown?

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Are the teachers in those same areas prepared to teach CS?

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@Jean Ryoo I totally agree - in presentations I’ve been doing frankly for years I’ve noted that the jobs in CS only represent maybe 6-7% of all jobs/careers; that in fact we need to understand how much CS pervades most other domains/career pathways, but often “marketing” keeps pointing to the 1.4 millions jobs that are and will be available - of course those are only a small percent of jobs/career that do and will engage CS.

43:46
@malinda In general, rural schools are less likely to employ certified CS teachers in TX than urban or suburban schools.

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@Carol - same in Nevada. :(

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details about the CSTA equity fellows: https://www.csteachers.org/page/csta-equity-fellowship

44:42
It makes me think of the important work of Delpit around identifying what it means to be a “warm demander” and the importance of this for Black students

44:59
@Jean: Love Delpit!

45:15
For anyone who is interested in learning about Kapor center here is the website: https://www.kaporcenter.org

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Monique Morris: https://www.amazon.com/Pushout-Criminalization-Black-Girls-Schools/dp/1620973421/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=black+girls+school&qid=1605213914&sr=8-1

48:19
I wonder if schools districts that engage students at K-5 have increased enrollment in CS classes in 6-12.

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To connect with Action Makers Joe Kmoch, Heidi Williams and I would like to invite you to the Champions of CS & CT Playground @ISTE20 Sunday 11/29 7:30 - 9:00 AM PST. Hadi Partovi will be presenting at 8:10 PST. Karen Peterson NGCP, Edie Cheng NCWIT, Ruthe Farmer CSforAll along with others will be sharing in 6 breakout sessions.https://conference.iste.org/2020/program/search/detail_session.php?id=113610073

48:57
Agree, Cheryl!

49:20
ISTE?

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https://www.iste.org/ - International Society of Tech Education.

51:50
@Cheryl: Really important point you bring up!

52:07
@Dianne and Karen, Thanks for sharing that info!

52:58
love that, Tamara

55:21
Thanks everyone! Great discussion and resources shared in the chat. In our work, we see great opportunities to get students started as early as possible - even PreK

55:38
Teachers appreciate all of that! Thank you all!

55:55
This has been so helpful!

56:07
https://bit.ly/3khttDF

56:07
thank you, Chris!!!

56:12
Thank you All!

56:19
Thanks to all!

56:26
Thank you Chris for pulling us all together!

56:41
Thank you everyone!

56:43
Thanks, everyone, for all the great work you do! And thanks Pat and Chris for organizing this opportunity to share! Thanks fellow panelists! An honor to be here with you :)

56:51
Thank you!

56:57
Yes we need to build more bridges between policy makers and researchers - and fully agree that CS sits in a wider culture of the education system

56:58
Thank you!

57:04
Here is the link to all the recorded webinars: https://advocacy.code.org/state-policy-forum

57:08
Thank you - bought insight to my research and advocacy to scale CS Education.

57:10
Thank you everyone!! Great talk

57:16
Thank you!

57:18
Thank you!!!

57:18
We will be posting this webinar recording soon!

57:20
Thank you so much to the panelists and to Chris for putting this together - I will be sharing this with several others that are also dealing with these issues. I hope your slides will be available along with the recording.

57:23
Thank you!

57:41
Thank you all! I will definitely be sharing this with my colleagues!

57:43
Thank you -- excellent!

57:54
I will make sure to share the video link with Pat to share as follow-up soon!

58:03
For the student video :)

58:13
can you type the url into the chat

58:15
Thank you for the great panel, and calls to action. Adding the value of out of school time in the equity conversation was a nice addition.

58:20
thank you!

58:26
Thank you Chris and great to see you!!